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Leno, but letterman, leno and all of that, he likes that, that's part of his constituency. it's part of the cultural support that he has. and i think he's very comfortable there, far more comfortable than he would be in the east room standing up and answering questions about what's going on and why did you let putin do this with snowden and stick it in our eye. >> i agree with this, i like the white house press core asking questions. there's news that the federal elections commission may have included with the irs in a targeting scandal. there's new evidence raising suspicions about the presid...

Culture, i'm not saying jay leno, but letterman, leno and all of that, he likes that, that's part of his constituency. it's part of the cultural support that he has. and i think he's very comfortable there, far more comfortable than he would be in the east room standing up and answering questions about what's going on and why did you let putin do this with snowden and stick it in our eye. >> i agree with this, i like the white house press core asking questions. there's news that the federal elections commission may have included with the irs in a targeting scandal. there's new evidence raising...

Nsa, russia, trayvon martin, hillary clinton 2016. the barriers, the way that we think about what slots fit in the media and how politicians use those, i don't think the obama white house thinks in those. i frankly don't think a lot of people who consume what we do think in those terms. i think this is a reflection of that. >> not at all. jay asked very good questions, jonathan. this was another example because there was so much news out there that the president has not been heard on. >> i'm sorry, andrea. i thought you were talking to cliff. in picking up on what chris was talking about. the ...

Point. in washington we know these people. we know senators. we know cabinet secretaries, we know former cabinet. so they're always at the top of the list this far out because the washington press core knows them, they go to receptions with them, they go to correspondent centers. there are a ton of governors on both sides of the aisle that i think are peering over the transom to wait for their chance to see if they can be the one that gets into this thing. i suspect both sides will have a group of governors jump in and have a spirited primary. >> you know, goldie, to you on this one. it looks ...

About syria. and then ben talked about it yesterday and then came to address the white house press core about syria. and they still will not spell out exactly what the u.s. is doing in terms of aid to the rebelings. they're saying military aid. i pressed the point senator john mccain said in recent days, you need heavy arms to arm the rebels, not small arms. not just guns, et cetera, you need to send artillery and aircraft and turn the tide against president assad beating down the rebels and iran and revolutionary guard streaming in to help assad. this is a pivotal moment right now. they still...