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Maybe last questions, would this be the beginning of the end? >> i think necessarily it is. this was one of the steps that robert mueller and his team felt needed to happen. there had been a lot of discussion about how they were going to compel president trump to offer answers if he weren't willing to do it by himself. one of the things that's fascinating and maggie haberman of the "new york times" pointed this out, the amount of time donald trump has spent railing against this investigation and how it's been going on but this is one of the things that has been holding it up. this long standin...

>> that's right. i think it's really important to point out this is as pete said a middle ground ruling. often we want to see a clear victor coming out of a case like this one way or the other. and the reason why it's significant is because that question of due process is so important. it's about the manner in which his press credentials were revoked. so for now, you know, i can tell you the folks at cnn see this as a win and an indication that things are headed in the right direction. but the sort of larger question about the precedent that this whole case sets going forward and how sort of e...

Together, but this really shouldn't be seen as an anti-trump organization as much as an organization that is standing up for what it believes are important to make a robust and healthy democracy. >> important to have you as part of the conversation. thank you for coming in. i appreciate it. >> thank you so much for having me. coming up for us, an important first step in court today in cnn's lawsuit against president trump over jim acos acosta's press credentials. what will be decided and what does it mean? that's next. once i started looking for it was a no-brainer. i switched to geico and s...

Answers that the american people deserve without being tough on the person who's answering the questions. and froonkly, were it not for them to be so tough with us, they wouldn't have the credibility now to be in that pressroom and say, no, this is the standard, this is how we are with all presidents. and you can't kick them out, as the courts have already ruled. i do think cnn has a strong case. and this white house is in trouble for yet another wherein. >> it's interesting the people who are seasoned white house correspondents. april is still there, one of the deans of the press corps, she's...

Discretion to decide who gets in and out of the white house. the president is saying he gets to choose and limit who is at the white house which reporters are able to attend presidential events. here is a part of the response that we can share on screen to quote from the response. it is a lengthy brief filed. it says that the president has broad discretion. it says the white house has the same broad discretion to regulate access to the white house for journalists and other members of the public that other past administrations have. that is the claim from the president's lawyers defending the m...