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Perhaps in washington happens to be those back room deals that you don't hear about. that's what we need to be concerned about. she probably would take it back. but it's not like it's going to make or break anything. >> on this point about the concerns about ethics. is there a media mindset that the thing donald trump wants to do beyond sorted of running the world is to enrich himself by doing things that will help the family business? >> there is that mindset. here is the reality. he's the president of the united states. anybody who is president of the united states will just by being the pre...

Perhaps in washington happens to be those back room deals that you don't hear about. that's what we need to be concerned about. she probably would take it back. but it's not like it's going to make or break anything. >> on this point about the concerns about ethics. is there a media mindset that the thing donald trump wants to do beyond sorted of running the world is to enrich himself by doing things that will help the family business? >> there is that mindset. here is the reality. he's the president of the united states. anybody who is president of the united states will just by being the pre...

In some way a rorschach test for how you feel about what this young girl said, whether she was well spoken enough, whether the defense guy went too hard on her, that was legitimate. i think that is a lot more legitimate than jodi arias day 1003, i don't mean to be insensitive, but it is about something, i think. >> exploiting for ratings? howie, what a cynic you are! >> yeah, that never happens in television. >> no! >> the evidence shows that the numbers for all the cable news networks that have focused on this are significantly higher than they are in a typical news day. i understand what goe...