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Accountable. if we are untethered to truth, the truth based on the rule of all degenerates. >> petthanks all for being here. jef jeff, first to you, we learn some very interesting things about mcgahn, first of all that mcgahn allegedly referred to the president as king kong do to his outbursts. >> didn't mcgahn himself isn't commenting, but the white house press secondary put out a statement saying the president and don mcgahn have a great relationship and that the president values his expertise. and to be clear, don mcgahn has done a lot of work on policy issues that could become legacy issue...

Time to put that to pastor? >> i would take it off of live tv. it's become a show, act aggressive, you get packed mentality. that's all designed for the camera. there is much more sober serious job, certain reporters wouldn't mind if he was taken off life t tv. >> sean: should you be banned? >> i will not be press secondary who determines who can commit to the white house. it's a slippery slope. you will fight with all kinds of reporters when you are the press secretary. you are a legitimate news organization or you should come in, if you're not, you shouldn't come in. i'm comfortable with the...

And, you know, i understand he also is going to get out there and make his case, that's his right. and he's a good, strong person. and, you know, i wish him well and wish calista well. >> beyond gingrich, mitt romney is focussed on his closest rival, rick santorum. the photo finish, eight votes gives the santorum bragging rights and an influx of cash. he noted his rival's new surge. >> now that rick santorum has gotten a big boost out of iowa i'm sure people will look at our respective positions. i don't know where he is on the tax reform program. on international trade. those are things that ...

And you know, i can understand that disappointment. and, you know, i understand he also is going to get out there and make his case, that's his right. and he's a good, strong person. and, you know, i wish him well and wish calista well. >> beyond gingrich, mitt romney is focussed on his closest rival, rick santorum. the photo finish, eight votes gives the santorum bragging rights and an influx of cash. he noted his rival's new surge. >> now that rick santorum has gotten a big boost out of iowa i'm sure people will look at our respective positions. i don't know where he is on the tax reform pro...