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Congressman elect lieutenant colonel michael waltz. michael, if i could go to you first, what is the specific rule of engagement on encounter terring a bombmaker? let me be more specific. i was not in the military, you both were. >> right. >> dan: you see a bombmaker on the field of battle who has now resurfaced, you know is a bomb maker. you don't know if he has some kind of a pressure device to detonate and explosive what what are the rules of engagement? are they hazy and is anyone clearing it up if they are. >> here is the crux of the issue if you kill a bomb maker, taliban. in the heat of...

"dark winter," tony tata and florida congressman elect lieutenant colonel michael waltz. michael, if i could go to you first, what is the specific rule of engagement on encountering a bombmaker? let me be more specific. i was not in the military, you both were. >> right. >> dan: you see a bombmaker on the field of battle who has now resurfaced, you know is a bomb maker. you don't know if he has some kind of a pressure device to detonate an explosive or not. what are the rules of engagement?en are they hazy and is anyone clearing it up if they are?y >> here is the crux of the issue. if you kill...

Notice. now he has escalated, and he could quite possibly be trying to figure out the correct formula, the correct method, the correct pressure device, mercury device, trigger, timer, tripwir tripwire, whatever that would affect the most damage to a human target. because he hasn't been incredibly effective in his explosive devices, so i would suspect that his explosive element of his bombs might be homemade. i would suspect it's not commercial or military grade. and terry should address this because, like i said, it's way outside of my expertise. >> laura: terry, hold that thought. we have a l...

Notice. now he has escalated, and he could quite possibly be trying to figure out the correct formula, the correct method, the correct pressure device, mercury device, trigger, timer, tripwir tripwire, whatever that would affect the most damage to a human target. because he hasn't been incredibly effective in his explosive devices, so i would suspect that his explosive element of his bombs might be homemade. i would suspect it's not commercial or military grade. and terry should address this because, like i said, it's way outside of my expertise. >> laura: terry, hold that thought. we have a l...

This is c-4. high explosive. it's full of ball bearings. before he was able to detonate it, you can imagine the explosion and the damage that would have been done if it was going off. >> the captain diffused that bomb himself as well as countless booby traps. here a pressure device that's set off by a vehicle driving over it. it's the danger from booby traps that means the civilians can't go home to their villages yet. each now that isis is gone. all they can do is collect a few things and leave again. >> one man tells me we can't live there, no water, no electricity, damage everywhere and exp...