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Scenes. the pressure strategy is back. good. >> yeah, the administration, mike pompeo, nikki haley have made it clear that sanctions are going to remain on the table north koreans have indicated peace deal first before they agree to anything. we are waiting to see a full reckoning and accounting of all of their weapons to come forward and set a timetable. there is still a lot that the north koreans haven't done. they are continuing to push for a peace deal. the real key is going to be what mike pompeo and nikki haley pushed at the u.n. a couple weeks ago and you just alluded to is will russia ...

North korea with this back and forth, comparing the size of nuclear buttons. kim jong un is not to be homicidal, not suicidal. i think with all of that back and forth and strategy of 2017, the moment came or he said, donald trump might just be crazy enough to use the nuclear option on me. i think that ends up ramping up the effectiveness of the diplomacy, multilateral diplomacy, that is where we are today. we are skeptical, hearing that from a lot of people, we are cautious, need to keep up the maximum pressure strategy. we are also seeing that there might be a real opportunity to actually den...

On north korea, those were passed in 2015, we had a coalition of countries through our own efforts and through the united nations efforts to impose more sanctions on north korea, and so it has been a process of imposing these kinds of sanctions. that has had a negative economic impact on north korea. and i think we should also acknowledge the role that south korea has played recently to make sure that we have an environment. now, these are serious negotiations, i hope that we do not have what i would characterize as the tuesday trump, who goes in and has the one on one talks with kim jong-un, ...

Red handed. very disappointed that china is allowing oil to go into north korea. there will never be a friendly solution to the north korea problem if this continues to happen. trump followed up with short time later during interview with "new york times" saying that he has quote, been soft on china on trade as part of pressure strategy towards pyongyang. adding oil is going into north korea. that wasn't my deal. if they don't help us with north korea, then i do what i've always said i want to do. meanwhile, south korea says it has seized hong kong flagged vessel suspected of selling oil to on...

Of think hard about what it would accomplish and what we can accomplish through diplomacy. as secretary mattis said, diplomatic options are always available. and i think some combination of the pressure strategy that we're talking about with secondary sanctions, as well as some inducements, there's still some possibility that we can attach down this growing crisis through serious, sustained diplomatic efforts. >> gentlemen, thanks very much for being with me. unfortunately, i think we're probably going to have conversation like this a lot in the coming weeks. thanks to boat of you. >> thank yo...