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To the news channels to the coverage all the clips of the times during the campaign when donald trump and his advisers opined about hillary clinton and her aides taking the fifth and saying that doing so made it seem like they were "guilty as hell." mike flynn will not be doing this if probably if he had a good story to tell. but i think you know, talking to folks who are running these intelligence investigations on the hill and to the intelligence community which has its own investigation and now the special counsel leading that investigation, there is not a lot of concern about the truth eve...

The place. >> yeah. but they're also -- first of all, they all signed up for those jobs. they've been with donald trump for a long time. the reporting does now suggest it wasn't just donald trump who wanted michael flynn. ivanka trump, jared kushner also supported that appointment as well. this is the staff that is trying to have the best of both worlds. they want that maverick politician who makes decisions that are not part of the tradition but also wants him to be contained. >> when you start having the possibility of a criminal investigation maybe it's time to reel it in a tad. >> you thin...

Others is, look, i never get calls from the white house, that never happens. this must be really important. he picks up and the president just wants to chitchat and talk about crowd sizes and talk about what's going on. the thing is, the idea that we thought comey and trump were going to work together, we should have seen this coming so much -- >> this the trump doing what trump does. he was trying to build a relationship, a chummy relationship. >> comey is obsessed with this distance. he's like, i don't want to chitchat with the president. >> i forgot to mention, gene, the most important part...

Including the special counsel. there would not be a special counsel had he not fired james comey, had these reports not come out saying that he was pressuring comey to stop the flynn investigation, these new reports saying actually he or the transition team at least knew that comey had taken $530,000 from the turkish government and hadn't register and even so trump insisted on making him the national security adviser. he hasn't listened to a lot of advice so far it's safe to say. but shutting up a reporter is one piece of advice he is willing to listen. to. >> ken vogel, as you survey the deve...

And what surprises me who d doesn't take the sally yates model, she's got something, she goes to the counsel, mcgahn and says, hey, we've got this problem, let's deal with it. why does not comey take himself out of the picture. they can't, at least to the best of my knowledge, kidnap him and brg him down to the white house. there's something about, he likes it too much. >> is james comey part survivor that he sees in rod rosenstein? >> i think comey is someone that skates towards the puck of the dramatic. >> hold on, hold on. write that down. we're going to use that.