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Given passes, free passes. look. these are people in their 40s, 50s, and 60s. we have been empowered to, by the federal government, to have stewardship of taxpayer funds. we have a mission. we have to be mentally prepared when we go out and physically prepared when when we go out. is there absolutely no excuse. what it a lapse in judgment? no it was premeditated and precalculated and prethought out and i might say done in combination with the commander of the team. sent home? that is an impetus response. >> we have run out of time, doctor, and we thank you for sharing your story bus and your t...

Something that was prethought out. just happens to be his opinion and he's expressing it because it came up in the interview and came into his head or that there's more calculations here that he feels by linking jeb bush to george w. bush. there is some benefit in that. how do you see it? >> yeah, there is some benefit. there is what i call the regan bush divide, which divides in essence the regan conservatives from the bush sort of moderates and the republican party. when you talk in this fashion and let's -- i'm not talking specifically about 9/11 but there is considerable disagreement withi...

Is. >> first off, the d.o.d. needs to stop rorying about this level of security. those days are gone. we're always under a threat now. so these soft targets have to be rethought out. i can guarantee you the way the d.o.d. chooses to put these different recruit depots is probably by a private company telling them, a marketing company saying you should put it here or do this, have these types of pictures up there. well, listen, that's not working anymore because you can't put a recruit depot out there without some type of security and you sure as heck can't put in the a strip mall anymore. >> th...

Parents being there for that. >> this is a bit of an issue with the defense strategy here. it's a little difficult because the parents are -- well, parents and an older sister. we have two separate. for the two minors we have a parent and older sister. we have a problem because they are in frame. you see them. and apparently the back story is there was a feud between these two families and the family got together and said let the children fight it out. this is not a fight in a schoolyard that happened. this is a prethought-out, intentional sort of fight. and i kind of understand where florida ...