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Georgia? for that matter, what american wants to die for kiev? this is a situation that we in part produced by our aggressive expansion of the nato alliance. an expansion, by the way, that weakened it, not strengthened it. and now we need to accept that, deal with the problems that we have to deal with to quiet the passions on both side. hope that moscow is thinking in a similar fashion, and do things that might make them like sanctions think in that fashion, bring germany in big-time, because that's the real power that russia fears, and at the same time, not let it go to the point where we're...

Be established, kicked us out. i suspect the same thing is going to happen in afghanistan. so it's a little bit disingenuous. but i understand his rhetoric and i understand what he's trying to do. he's trying to get europe and the west in general to stand up to what is, in his mind, and in his words, russian aggression. now, if we look at the history of this, it's a little less that be that. bill clinton started the process and george w. bush continued it, of extending nato to the extent where i clearly understand what russia has done. now, cooler heads have to prevail. the rhetoric has been t...

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