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-- so often he's been talked about someone who is irrational. >> molly: many people said he was crazy like his father. he's a brutal, awful dictator, but is not crazy, nor was his father. we did studies on the father when i was in the government. many people have advocated a preventative attack reaven the we don't feel they're about to attack us we need to start a war to prevent a war based on the idea that he's crazy and he may wake up someday push the button. when i say despite him not being crazy how would you respond if we were to attack first most would say he knows he can't stand up to t...

Guam are allies will be met with a massive military response. is now the time for military action? are we on the cusp of military action? >> molly: secretary menaces comments very strong and resolute, but clearly in the context to a response to a north korean rate attack. that's consistent with other administration policies. that is different from wire without we were a few months ago with the president's comments and comments by national security advisor which seem to be suggesting a preventative attack and then officials were walking back those comments. although comments every strong, they'...

-- so often he's been talked about someone who is irrational. >> molly: many people said he was crazy like his father. he's a brutal, awful dictator, but is not crazy, nor was his father. we did studies on the father when i was in the government. many people have advocated a preventative attack reaven the we don't feel they're about to attack us we need to start a war to prevent a war based on the idea that he's crazy and he may wake up someday push the button. when i say despite him not being crazy how would you respond if we were to attack first most would say he knows he can't stand up to t...

Guam are allies will be met with a massive military response. is now the time for military action? are we on the cusp of military action? >> molly: secretary menaces comments very strong and resolute, but clearly in the context to a response to a north korean rate attack. that's consistent with other administration policies. that is different from wire without we were a few months ago with the president's comments and comments by national security advisor which seem to be suggesting a preventative attack and then officials were walking back those comments. although comments every strong, they'...

Does make it any less troublesome and worrisome. >> jon: other than hiroshima, the world has never seen a nuclear war, partly because of the policy of mutually assured destruction worked with the soviet union and the chinese, they have thousands of nuclear warheads. is north korea different? >> when people advocate a preventative attack, they usually postulated that kim jong-un is crazy and we don't know what they'll do because we need to start a war to prevent a war. i don't think kim is crazy, nor was his father crazy. obviously, a terrible dictator, but he's not insane, he's not going to wa...