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Follow in representation of a client in this situation. he's someone that stands apart from the foreign policy establishment, you made an interesting point about him, tom, that i haven't read anywhere else because we've been talking about john bolton's favoring what we would call -- many of us have been calling pre-emptive war with north korea, a pre-emptive strike with north korea. you're distinguishing what we call pre-emptive and preventive and there's a difference. can you take us into that. >> sure. there's a huge difference between them. pre-emptive is anticipatory self-defense. preventi...

That's japan tacking the united states in 1941. that's us attacking iraq because we're worried about what they could do in five or ten years. and it's a very, very dangerous business. the statesman bismark once equated it to committing war out of fear of death. it requires you to think ahead of as everyone in the world is your enemy, which is the way bolton views the world. >> there are many uses of presidential credibility, none more important than in national defense, national security. if you had a president of the united states leading what would be called either a preventive or pre-emptiv...

Institution of the federal government we have. >> thanks for being with us. coming up, steve bannon says the president is ready for war with the special counsel robert mueller now. and we know that the new national security advisor is ready for war with north korea. and we know the president needs to distract from all the stories from all the women he has had relationships with, just during his third and current marriage. we're not considering anything before that. we'll consider that combustible combination coming up. later we're joined by the student who confronted senator marco rubio and ...

Potentially for what the administration has called preventive war, or preemptive war. envision the united states potentially attacking north korea in the absence of an imminent or actual threat against the united states. deterrence makes good sense, that's very essential for us to maintain. obviously we don't ever o take f the table the threat of the use ofor force. but preemptive war if one were thinking of executing that, be catastrophic. >> mark: oh, susan. susan. i nearly walked out of the roomu the great tammy bruce is with us. i've got to say this, tammy. you know, susan rice is and peop...

Discussion and preparation potentially for what the administration has called preventive war, or preemptive war. envision the united states potentially attacking north korea in the absence of an imminent or actual threat against the united states. deterence makes good sense, that's very essential for us to maintain, and obviously we don't take off the table the threat of the use of force. but preemptive war if one were thinking of executing that, would be catastrophic. >> oh, susan. so san , susan. i nearly walked out of the room. the great tabby bruce is with us. i've got to say this, tabby. ...