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Today's attack here in kyiv, obviously yesterday, five people, the death toll actually went up, when that residential building nearby a power plant was hit. and so this is sort of a two-pronged approach for russia. on the one hand really trying to just hit civilian infrastructure as much as possible, to maximize the pain particularly heading into the winter months, but also a real attempt, i think, to deal a decimating blow to morale here in ukraine. i will say, bianna, from talking to people on the streets and around it seems to be having the reverse effect. you are seeing people angrier and ...

Ultimately dictate the way other nations can anticipate or not anticipate russian aggression in the future but mrs. nato's ability to defend. what's interesting in all of this, if president putin's calculation was to weaken nato or expose the weakness that exists, the lack of unity, the germans not sure how they would like to respond as opposed to other nations, that it's actually had the reverse effect, it's had a unifying consolidating effect. we're seeing stronger more unified nato coming out with much stronger language. >> one criticism, john, to that point is you do hear some, including f...

Maybe _ they were going to bomb or invade, maybe draw tanks up to the border where _ maybe draw tanks up to the border where i_ maybe draw tanks up to the border where i am — maybe draw tanks up to the border where i am now but it really worried people _ where i am now but it really worried peorrte and — where i am now but it really worried people and had the precise reverse effect _ people and had the precise reverse effect and — people and had the precise reverse effect and so presumably persistent putin wanted. it has encouraged them to think— putin wanted. it has encouraged them to...

Residents to russia. they're claiming a ukrainian offensive is imminent. ukraine denies that. there's no evidence of it either. pro-russian separatest leaders meanwhile have also reportedly called for military mobilizations in ukraine's break away regions. cnn diplomatic editor nic robertson joins me now from moskow. let's talk about what we heard from jens stoltenberg as well. it seems they are pushing and enforcing unity in the case of what's going on with russia and ukraine. your thoughts? >> yeah, absolutely. jens stoltenberg talked about what moskow is seeing happening because of their ac...

Then suddenly, there starts to be talk that finland, like sweden, might feel happier being in nato. and immediately, russia threatens them with possible military consequences. ok, maybe they didn't mean they were going to bomb or invade, maybe they would just draw tanks up to the border, where i am now. but the fact is, it really worried people. and it had the precise reverse effect of what presumably president putin wanted. i mean, it has encouraged the finns to think about joining nato, and a majority of people here, according to the latest opinion poll, want to do that now. so it's an objec...