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Caucus. i think that's part of this problem. why is priebus one of the lemmings running towards a freshman senator who's only been in congress a half a year? >> and i can't speak to the rationale behind it other than the idea about fund raising. that part of the base that is ginned up in this are going to write a check. and so i think as i said at the time, that was not a playing field for the party to present itself in terms of taking sides. the majority leader, the speaker have carved out the pathway. the party has to rally behind that. and part of boehner's problem right now is that he's in...

I think they're destroying the speakership, too, governor. >> i agree. >> i want to ask you michael, reince priebus the leader of the republican party, he beat you in that race. i don't think he's the true leader of anything. he has sided with ted cruz against the speaker, it seems. and to take sides against the elected leader of the house who holds a constitutional position is to undermine him in his own caucus. i think that's part of this problem. why is priebus one of the lemmings running towards a freshman senator who's only been in congress a half a year? >> and i can't speak to the ratio...