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When the president does and doesn't say. you're saying that's where it matters because you can't offer assurances to wavering members. the kinds of things you could give a member your of your own party, you think that has tangible affects with the ability of votes? >> of course, because billy long today said is basically, mr. president, i don't believe you. i don't trust you that you're actually going to resolve this. if a president loses his credibility on capitol hill, we're steps away from him losing his political agenda and we know what that means for 18 and 20. you're going to see a prima...

Yawn. the budget doesn't include border wall money because the president doesn't need it. he's lost credibility. >> that point about long, david, is a really interesting one because i am still working through how much it does matter when the president does and doesn't say. you're saying that's where it matters because you can't offer assurances to wavering members. the kinds of things you could give a member your of your own party, you think that has tangible affects with the ability of votes? >> of course, because billy long today said is basically, mr. president, i don't believe you. i don't...