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Was only through reporting recently that karen even began to understand the extent to which this collusion existed. and so it was definitely a primary impetus for her coming forward now. but now that she's come forward she's going to get out of this contract. >> that word, collusion, a pretty powerful word right now. i want you to go in detail. who was colluding with him whom? >> karen hired keith davidson to represent her. and keith did a number of things. he took her for example to a b.c. and they were very close to actually working with karen and having her come forward, kind of similar to ...

Doesn't have you and conservative members of the house of representatives and risks losing people who might be afraid that others are going to lose insurance, you think this bill is in serious trouble, sir? >> this legislation is definitely in serious trouble. the primary impetus for the trouble in my opinion, aside from it being the largest welfare plan proposed by the republicans and the republican party's history is that we just had two reports come out in january from the congressional budget office on the one hand and the government accountability office on the other led by the comptrolle...