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Acting upon that lie. >> not only that. he, at the very least, didn't ask the right question. you have to wonder, why was this traffic study such a big deal? is there any merritt to his argument. what strikes me about the e-mails is that samson was most interested, not in what happened to the people of ft. lee and the other new jersey commuters, he was most interested in, we have to protect the governor and we are angry for putting the story out here. his primary interest was political damage control. >> he thinks he is the source for the wall street journal stories. they are all furious. you ...

Study such a big deal? what strikes me about the e-mails between foy and samson -- sorry, between berroni and samson, samson was most interested not in what happened to the people of ft. lee, he was most interested in, we have to protect the governor, we have to stop this story. his primary interest was political damage control. >> he's furious, they're all furious, you know, because you worked at the port authority part of the context is the snakes nest. these are really brutal politics. there's like what a $20 billion budget or something crazy like that. it's co appointed by the new york gov...

Port authority to help them. in order for the truth to already be on the table, it has to be the case that samson is helping them push back against new york having been told a lie about the origin of the traffic jam, believing that lie and acting upon that lie. >> not only that. he, at the very least, didn't ask the right question. you have to wonder, why was this traffic study such a big deal? is there any merritt to his argument. what strikes me about the e-mails is that samson was most interested, not in what happened to the people of ft. lee and the other new jersey commuters, he was most ...

In egypt. you need to bring them back. otherwise you have civil war. >> you're more skeptical of bring back morsi argument. >> i don't think it's realistic. the united states, lets not forget, we have interests in the middle east. our primary responsibility is to our interest. our into here is in stability. our primary interest is in democracy in the long-term. i don't think that morsi is going to come back. i don't think the military will accept that. i think we have an interest in political inclusion. i think we have an interest putting in place building blocks of democracy, a proper constit...

They have to recognize israel. up to now they have categorically rejected all -- >> do you think it might change them? >> i haven't seen any sign of it. but we do hope that some day as we strike and store a peace agreement with the west bank and we see that peace yields great dividends, the people in the west bank and gaza will say we want what they want in the west bank and they'll join the peace process. >> the region is in turmoil right now in syria. jordan's got major problems. lebanon, iraq, egypt obviously a problem. from israel's standpoint, should the u.s. continue to provide $1.5 bill...