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But it is, i'm sorry, i just think it is a formula for electoral disaster. it's exactly what donald trump is counting on in 2020. >> in fact, one of his advisers, rick pierce, has been saying focus more on sanders and warren because they don't care whether they are the nominee but want trump to frame the democratic party as the party of democratic socialism. >> absolutely. even one of these flip seats i talked about in the suburbs in illinois. every reframe coming from an announced republican contender is this is the incumbent is a democrat socialist. that is the hallmark of the campaign. but ...

Primary process. karine, thank you for doing it. >> thank you so much. >> i'm sure it's been a weird 4 hours since then. that instinctive behavior that you modeled is inspirational. >> chief public affairs officer at move on many org. good evening, lawrence. >> i could have listened to ten more minutes of that. we've all been woching that vidvi -- watching that video. i'm so glad you were able to be have ta discussion. >> thank you,al. >> the only republican member of congress who says he has read the entire mueller report also says that donald trump should be impeached. a new group group call...

This is his audience. these are union firefighters largely male, largely white audience. these are the kind of voters who love joe biden. i think there are real questions about whether he could appeal to the larger democratic primary electorate as it is now. and one comment that he made at that event that, you know, we didn't play on air was he talked about how he's being criticized for working with republicans and kind of dismiss that as something ridiculous. of course you should work with republicans. and frankly, that's not a lot -- there are a number of democratic voters who do not feel th...

Presidential field growing more and more crowded. another 15 expected. are we seeing the democratic party cannibalize itself? >> we're not seeing that yet. most are focused on their own messageing, not attacking each other. but the question is how long is that sustainable in such a crowded and competitive field. i would predict by the time we get to the first debates in june and july of this year, it is going to be a much different story, we could see these democrats starting to go after each other and it will be game time, game on. but the question is, is that necessarily a bad thing. a crowd...

Go. year going to go someplace that isn't america anymore. >> are you ready to look at something and see that might lead to a truly great presidency with all these 32 people talk about running in 2020? >> any presidency would be better. i want the it democrats to find the best candidate available. i want them to go through a rigorous primary process. and that's a good thing. people are asking all the time, what do you think of beto? i dont know. it's like a band. i just 3rd one song so far. i want to hear more but i really don't know a lot of their stuff and year going to finds out and that's ...