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There's nato coalition, then nation building. i mean, this is sounding like to a lot of american people obviously, judging from the polls a little bit like iraq and afghanist afghanistan. the american people skeptical saying wait a minute, this sounds like what we've seen before, even if you're not speaking from the oval office. >> andrea, the white house will say yay, we know about iraq and afghanistan, but we want you to say this sounds like bosnia, kosovo and the interventions done in the late 1990s. they believe that is a successful model. fact check them on this. >> sthe fact is it took a...

President obama, sarkozy from sans and cameron from the uk, this is the alliance together. also meeting with the head of thf political arm of the opposition of the rebels, to try to say there is something to turn to. we are just going to have a vacuum after gadhafi. >> and howard fineman, i want to ask you about the setting tonight. it's 7:30 not 8:00. it's not quite prime time. it's not the oval office. it's the national defense university. what's the subtle message the white house is trying to send back. they're sort of one step in here. >> this is supposed to 234not b prime time war. that's...