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But then again i've had people that went to harvard, yale, princeton working for me from the time i w29 years old, to ma the point, this is the most important thing, we have to change our assumptions. i think i got a great education at the university of alabama. i can't imagine getting a better education there. we have to change our assumptions. and that goes to community colleges as well. we need more diversity. because you're right, this funnel is getting thinner and thinner. >> we got to work on the costs and the debt these students are left. the book "twilight of the elites america after m...

Growing population and not opening more schools. just a growing national security intelligence community that gets bigger and bigger. 1.5 million with some sort of classified access. you need to hire people -- >> you know, i just said something i need correct. i said this starts the second you leave high school. since i moved to the northeast, it's the -- i have figured out that all up and down the east coast, i'm sure it's in other places, mainly the east coast, when we first got here, everybody was like what kindergarten are you sending your kid to? i don't know. >> oh, my lord. >> it starts...

The question continues about how far up the irs scandal rose through the government chain. on sunday ranking member of the house oversight committee elijah cummings said case closed. he released part of a transcript of an interview with an unnamed irs manager from cincinnati who is a self-described conservative republican. the manager said an employee brought him concerns about a tea party group filing and it was the manager who began the reviews. not washington. >> he is a conservative republican working for the irs. i think this interview and these statements go a long way to showing that th...