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Is working on this design and what it is? >> well, the threat from dhs is nonspecific, but the group that has experimented with all sorts of interesting designs for bombs that are hard to detect by conventional means is al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. they built the underwear bomb that failed to detonate on christmas day 2009. they built the bombs hidden in printer cartridges and cargo planes bound for the u.s. luckily discovered in october 2010. and they have a very experienced bombmaker called al asiri who has never been found and is still believed to be out there. may be training other p...

We've also seen what the 2009 underwear bomb would have looked like if it had gone off. another similar explosion to the one you just saw. farouk concealed it in his pants and got it through security. that's a law enforcement demo of what it would have looked like. also that british security expert, sidney alford, had previously shown cnn what one of those printer bombs hitten in printer cartridges on cargo planes could have done if they had gone off in that 2010 plot. there's a picture of the printer cartridge bomb there. that plot was disrupted as we look at what that could have done. in tho...

Spreading into lebanon. jordan has issues, turkey along the border has issues. this is very, very, very concerning. >> there is now a bomb that can go through magnet om ters. people can get on aircraft with those bombs. they have tried to send four of them into this country, two of them in printer cartridges. one an asset was able to obtain out of yemen. these were coming into this country, two of them aimed at synagogues in illinois. now having said that, the only way you could stop this is with intelligence. the way you could stop that is by putting clues together to ferret out where this is...

One on christmas day in '09, one in dubai with two printer cartridges of computers having this bomb in the cartridge reportedly headed to chicago, and then in about a year and two months ago, by an asset who developed -- who had access to one of these bombs from aqap in yemen. the bomb maker is still alive. we know they want to attack the united states with one of these weapons. do we want to make it easier or harder? that's what i would say to the american public. i want to make it harder. >> senator feinstein, thanks so much for joining us. >> you're very welcome, wolf. thank you. up next,...

Asiri is behind the foiled 2009 underwear bomb plot to bring down an airliner approaching detroit on christmas day, and a 2010 plot to send bombs in printer cartridges in cargo planes bound for the u.s. both plots were foiled at the last minute. in 2009, al asiri even planted a bomb on his own brother in his underwear or a body cavity. the brother got close to saudi arabia's counter terror chief and set it off, killing himself but not the saudi minister. >> what does it say that he does this with his own brother? >> it says that he's absolutely ruthless. not only is ibrahim al asiri absolutely...