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>> alliances secretly conservative. >> there's not. and my belief is that the force was a perfect -- without the force, "star wars" never would have taken off. the force, this literal -- >> religious -- >> literally that phrase, that term? >> no, the whole idea that it's this spiritual power that you can somehow have, it was religious but not christian. it was new age. the new age thing. >> very new age. >> started in 1977. that's why it has been successful. plus the special effects. >> what's your explanation for the giganticism of it all and the culture? >> i think not to draw too much atten...

Community about a little bit more, and i believe they are. so there's a lot of fluidity here in terms of how this thing will play itself out which is great. i think the american people are saying we want a process that's shaken up a bit. we don't want this thing to be so sterile that it's automatic. >> rick, from a policy perspective, bernie sanders is running on something people understand, that the economy and washington are rigged by wall street, and that's the first thing, priority thing he's going to try to change. >> i think that's true. he also, by the way, has the one thing going for h...

To get resorpss so quickly in these areas and really start a very proactive response effort. >> reporter: robert thomas is a professor that teaches journalist students how to cover the oil industry. has bp done a good enough job conveying to the public how difficult it is to clean up the spill? >> an awful lot of people feel like they're doing nothing, but to me it's a priority thing. i want them down there at 5,000 feet. i want them to stop that flow. >> reporter: and -- and bp officials tell us that they're doing everything they can, 24/7 to do just that. their latest effort? that dome that ...