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The points you made in the talking point i agree with look, the constitution protects content of communication. it doesn't protect the fact of communication and that database is keeping simply a collect of telephone numbers for some period of time so the retrospectively if the government says we have a bad call made from a bad guy abroad into the united states, let's go check and see what kind of connections there are with that phone number. >> bill: i think most people would be convinced by that argument. >> right. now prism. >> bill: email thing, huh-uh. >> hold on a second. prism. the prism...

I know most of you do not agree from the radio to the e-mail yesterday, and that's fine. here's the problem. if a 29-year-old can get away with it, expect a 33-year-old, a 39-year-old, everybody in the private sector as well as those in government say i want to be a hero, i want my 15 minutes of fame. i'm not sure i can agree with this program again. and look for the bottom to fall out. when it comes to snowden in particular, it seems as though his personal life is being somewhat exposed as they try to find out who he is and where he's going. >>gretchen: the latest poll shows 56% of americans ...

>> in the impact segment tonight. president obama relevant understands the rah because of federal power on the spying issue could well harm him once he leaves office. i suspect that on a list of people who might be targeted, you know, so that somebody could read their emails or listen it their phone calls, i would probably be pretty high on that list so would juan williams and mary katharine ham. join us now from washington. mary katharine, start with you tonight. because i always start with juan we want' to mix it up a little bit here. karl rove believes that there isn't an abuse on this pris...

>> in the impact segment tonight. president obama relevant understands the rah because of federal power on the spying issue could well harm him once he leaves office. i suspect that on a list of people who might be targeted, you know, so that somebody could read their emails or listen it their phone calls, i would probably be pretty high on that list so would juan williams and mary katharine ham. join us now from washington. mary katharine, start with you tonight. because i always start with juan we want' to mix it up a little bit here. karl rove believes that there isn't an abuse on this pris...

>> in the impact segment tonight. president obama relevant understands the rah because of federal power on the spying issue could well harm him once he leaves office. i suspect that on a list of people who might be targeted, you know, so that somebody could read their emails or listen it their phone calls, i would probably be pretty high on that list so would juan williams and mary katharine ham. join us now from washington. mary katharine, start with you tonight. because i always start with juan we want' to mix it up a little bit here. karl rove believes that there isn't an abuse on this pris...