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Criminal justice system by passing bills and reduction of prison beds. reduction of prison sentences and so on and to me it's ludicrous. >> bill: happens happening all across the country. we don't have enough money there are certain people that you red flag them for the rest of their life. >> i agree. >> bill: you rape a child or sexually assault anybody, big red flag. okay? rest of your life. >> this is a big societal change. i have been in this business almost 30 years. this is a big societal change that's been going on about 10, 15 years where severing about rehabilitation. rehabilitation. ...

Budget agreement, these are the kind of things that can happen, if any of these folks hurt somebody, it's going to be a hajj story. >> it is. martha: and the calculation, that you know, that will reflect poorly on republicans, that's a pretty risky bet, isn't it? >> it is indeed. and i think the next question that you're going to see all people in congress asking is, well, what did the other departments do about the necessity of cutting back on their spending? remember the definition of sequestration, is across the board. every account is reduced by the same percentage. you don't get to choose...

With regard to illegal immigrants. >>brian: more are getting out. they said we're going to look at those who don't look dangerous and let them out because we have no choice. at $164 a night to keep an illegal housed up, we can't afford to leave them there. remember the few hundred let out leading up to sequester, now we have hundreds more and maybe thousands more are going to be leaving their prison beds. we'll monitor, ask them to come in once or twice a week and say hi, i'm illegal and then go back to do what they do. >>gretchen: going to put ankle brace hr-ts on them? >> in some cases yes. ...

Agenda that was preexisting. >> rahm emanuel has had a tough tenure there. since newtown we know they have some of the toughest gun laws in the country. now that they moved to this sentencing strategy and truth in sentencing is the feeling is that that is going to work? >> reporter: you really hit the nail right on the head because the prisons are down state in illinois. the prisons are already overcrowded. so you may get some pushback, if you make the sentences stiffer, ultimately you will have more convicts in more prison beds. and the rest of illinois has to foot the bill. so you may get th...

Legislatures. advocated and lobbying for more immigrant attention. we have 2.3 million prison beds that they want full. for the first time in history, you have people profiting from the excesses and you don't have an effective counter to the infusion of money. never the case that people lobbied for people to punish. you never had to do that. huh this set of interest that is pushing for lots of dollars. and they have no economic ability to counter. >> part comes back to this phenomenon called. >> 'tis paer ting budgets. they are making the trade offs themselves as opposed to these feeding into ...