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Families are held together, they could be held on a prolonged basis in prison facilities. we've all seen the pictures of children being held in cages in recent days. there's nothing in this new executive order that would prevent that. >> it is important to keep the kids together with their mothers and fathers. >> absolutely. but what they're doing is substituting one bad policy for another. the public outrage is what we should be giving credit to in terms of turning this policy around. it's not that this separation has suddenly found compassion for immigrant families. >> you've spent a lot of ...

Effectively these kids are incarcerated inside the shelter. >> that is what life is like for the kids. you went in your state washington to see some of the moms. give us a sense what you saw, what you experienced and what they told you. >> it was heartbreaking. there are 1,600 individuals who have been transferred from the southern border to federal bureau of prison facilities across the country. one is in my home state just south of seattle. there are 206 individuals being detained there. i met with all 174 of the women and they are being held in three separate pods. they talked about how at ...

Penalties, invoking troubling echoes of the 1980s rush to imprison drug dealers for years or decades with negligible impact on drug abuse. how effective are tougher sentences as a deterrent. >> we already learned this lesson in the '80s and '90s when we imposed mandatory minimums. automatic sentences when you have cases like drugs that were a firearm is involved. the experiment in large part has failed. mandatory minimums flat -- i mean floors for sentences for drug offenders just populates our prisons and creates a huge demand for more prison facilities. therefore, building the entire prison ...

The -- there's a lot of seismic activity. also it's just basic facilities. the city has collapsed. there's not much electricity in much of the city. traffic has collapsed. so basic getting water, getting food is a concern for people and authorities. the authorities also dealing with things like hospitals being damaged, schools have collapsed with children, prison facilities damaged. so there's just an overwhelming number of things they have to watch for the next 24 hours. there's also the concern about law and order breaking down and people looting. but so far there's been more of a feeling of...

Assessments about injuries, people who are missing, anything? >> so there were rumors early on, and i they v think they're still out there, that some people didn't come off the islands and potentially are in trouble, but i think the govern governor's going to have more information on that. my last report was first responders were going in early this morning to try to find some of these people and attempt some rescue efforts. but we'll see what happens when the dpof nor comes out. >> there are three prison facilities i understand evacuating from major flooding. what is the plan for safely trans...