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Jong-un is seen as less of a rogue leader even though he runs the world's worst totalitarian prison state. >> tom, what do you make of this meeting? >> this all started with the president raising the tensions, promising to use fire and fury to wipe north korea off the map. he then lowered those tensions in a sense by offering a freeze for freeze -- a freeze in our military exercises with south korea in terms -- in return for a freeze in north korea's testing of long range missiles and nukes. and now i think the best we're going to get from this as -- is going to be a longer term, verifiable fr...

Into north korean territory. he is making history. so it's a give for the north koreans as a government. it's a give for donald j. trump as an individual. sitting here doing the analysis, that's not a great trait, but having said that leaving aside the legitimization of north korea, china is on its way to being the largest economy and xi jinping who is no fan of jong-un, he legitimized him. he made his first trip, which helped to set this up, made the meeting between trump and xi jinping much better than it otherwise would have been in osaka at the g20. the fact that the chinese are engaging w...

Don't want people seeing your country is this to crippen regime that runs a prison state. you want them to see it as one of the great countries of the world so he treated like that already and an appeal to his vanity to get him to that. it is a smart boy for someone like him. >> even if he wanted to agree, how difficult is that going to be in north korea? >> is generals and people in power are tremendously worried they lose their leverage and ability to saber rattle. it is a dangerous situation and is going to be doable. >> they don't trust the west inherently. >> we appreciate it. 18 after th...

Niceties. you and i are going to work together. i think we're now down to brass tacks on the u.s. side, the secretary of state, and the national security adviser. let's not forget the big picture. the united states is the most important bastion of freedom in the world. north korea is the most important bastion of repression. it is a prison state. it is a police state. we have elevated that police state. we have elevated that dictator by putting him on the same stage as the american president. now, it may be worth it if we can help guarantee the security of our allies and our own country. but i...

People. there has been a long-standing view of the presidents of both parties. a country that does not trust a citizen does not respect the rights of its own citizens will not respect the rights of his neighbors. clearly, north korea is really the worst human rights abuser to his own people and americans who have been unfortunate enough to travel there and be taken hostage. japanese who have been held hostage there for decades. in the back of your mind is important to remember this is still a very evil regime. >> how does the president of the united states deal with this regime? >> you basical...