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Newspaper yesterday. in places like south carolina, in prison systems, they still segregate hiv positive prisoners. they still make them wear those white arm bans and send them far away from their family which we all know is one of the greatest things you can have is your family connection. when you send people away, you really break down their will to do better. we still see things like that. earlier in the year, the hershey school wanted to refuse admission to a young hiv man to this great school for a wonderful education, simply because he was hiv positive and they thought that this child w...

Constitutional protection of americans? >> sean: you're both great lawyers. this is the question here. what is the danger, kimberly, when you give enemy combatants, terrorists, the same rights as an american citizen? you treat terrorism as a criminal justice system. >> and what's the legal precedence by which they're doing this? is obama going to issue another executive order to fund this? there's already legislation prohibiting this. you're going to bring them on to u.s. soil, into our prison systems where they can radicalize and recruit other people and give them the same constitutionally af...

Americans? >> sean: you're both great lawyers. this is the question here. what is the danger, kimberly, when you give enemy combatants, terrorists, the same rights as an american citizen? you treat terrorism as a criminal justice system. >> and what's the legal precedence by which they're doing this? is obama going to issue another executive order to fund this? there's already legislation prohibiting this. you're going to bring them on to u.s. soil, into our prison systems where they can radicalize and recruit other people and give them the same constitutionally afforded rights and privileges ...

While, but the seeds are sown, and they look to bring these people back. megyn: this would be really tough because we already have an you're crowding problem in our prisons, and they'd have to be segregated from the rest of the inmate population, and that could cause other inmates to be triple bunked. not a lot of folks are going to have a ton of sympathy for those in prison, but that is a problem for the guards, for the way we run our prison systems, it costs money and so on, and the argument on the other side has been they're fine down in gitmo. i mean, they're well taken care of, and -- but...

I will protect from you the evil ers do down the block, i will protect you from this scourge in american life that got him like theed in a landslide in '72, now politics have followed suit ever since, reagan, clinton, both parties agree on one thing, saying you are not tough on crime has been political suicide. i believe it is changing but it has been till now political suicide. >> well, you were just telling us as you sat down, you got back from an incredible trip to oklahoma. tell us what you were doing there. >> i met incredible people in oklahoma. it is a state with one of the toughest pri...