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Assume at some point that this information will be made available to the congress. i have not heard -- earlier as joel brenner was saying, i have not heard the administration make an express privilege claim here. if they have a privilege claim to make, they should make it and it should be confronted -- it should be confronted with the congress. and typically you try to work to some sort of a combination. there's a lot of discussion about this statute over the course of the last -- over the last 20 years. and the thrust of kind of learning has been that when there is a dispute over the release ...

Function. he's obligated to transmit that information to congress. the dni is not allowed to insert his own judgment. unless you really don't want to. unless doj asserts this privilege claim. it shall be transmitted. i think one thing is that is significant to understand is what the white house is arguing is that you cannot blow the whistle on the president. that no matter what an intelligence community member might have heard the president say or promise in these phone calls, the nature of executive privilege is such that person cannot tell congress in a classified facility in a space which t...

Friends. jake sherman, senior writer for politico ron klain, former chief of staff to vice presidents joe biden and al gore. adviser now to the biden campaign nbc news correspondent heidi przybyla, plus former chief spokesman for the justice department matt miller and joyce vance is here, a former u.s. attorney, has been monitoring the hearings all afternoon for us if you could answer this for me, what claim -- why -- why was corey lewandowski able to get away with not answering any of those questions? >> because two things, one, the white house made a very, you know, very aggressive privilege...

These specific questions from her? >> the critics tend to litigate this in court. but it's good to keep in mind when donaldson is asserting these privilege claims the white house is giving an unspecified privilege claim, she's asserting on answers she's already provided to robert mueller that in many cases have already been part of the public reports. i think it sort of illustrates the absurdity of sort of the legal claim there. donaldson really is critical to lots of parts of the mueller report. she's cited more than 65 times in that report. about things like president trump's mental state wh...

Want to see the transcript of that call. so my concern is that while there could be an innocent explanation for this, i am concerned that the instructions here may have come from higher levels at the justice department. it could be the first step towards some kind of privilege claim, not for a president but for a president-elect, because donald trump was not president at the time that this -- he was the president-elect, but he was not the president at the time that this phone call took place. >> that is a really interesting point, this may be laying the groundwork to essentially defy this and ...