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Now. >> my question was exactly that. from the very onset of the violence of the capital, they were pushing for a strong statement that people should leave the capitol, is that right? >> i was and others were as well. >> you said you expressed your opinion forcefully. could you tell us exactly how you do that. >> yeah, i have to, on the privilege issue i can't talk about conversations with the president but i can generically say the people need to be told there needs to be a public announcement, fast, they need to leave the capital. >> and pat, could you let us know approximately when you said

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I have to, on the privilege issue, i can talk about conversations with the president. i could generically say i said, you know, people need to be told, there needs to be a public announcement, one past that they need to leave the capitol. >> pat, could you let us know, approximately, when you said that? >> approximately one? almost immediately after i found out people were getting into the capital, or approaching the capitol in a way that was violent. >> do you remember any discussions with mark meadows, with respect to his [inaudible] president didn't want to do anything? was somehow resistan...

Dc, to take a look at that kind of presentation and say, are there criminal charges that can be brought that speak to us? and that is something that, you know, when trump was impeached for the second time, members of congress, they debated whether or not they should include dereliction of duty as part of their charges against him, and clearly, the committee is trying to make the argument this man is not fit to be president again, and whether or not the justice department can weigh in is to be seen. >> joyce, what do you think the next move for the justice department is, because no matter how m...