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Trying to accomplish for himself but he's not helping himself. >> guy, in addition to just being dramatic and strange, frankly that all this happened, what does it matter for the investigation? why was it that michael cohen seemed to go out of his way to point out that this third client existed and ultimately when it came to it they admitted it was sean hannity? >> john, that's a great question. you've got -- look what you've got. you've got one side saying the government saying, look, we're investigating cohen for matters that have nothing to do with attorney/client privileged information. th...

Character. mr. bailen. who are you? mr. bailen, "your honor, i apologize for interrupt you. i'm a lawyer representing the press. abc, the new york times, associated press, cnn, and newsday." the judge says, "i think you'd better come to the podium." mr. bailen says, "i think i'd better too, your honor. i've sat and listened until we got to the point where i realized there's a public access issue here. your honor, i'm robert balin from davis wright trumaine. thank you very much." he says, "there is no credible claim that this client's mere identity is attorney-client privileged information. mic...

Look, there is nothing in it for us to inadvertently give over attorney-client privileged information because then the defense can come at us, sue and maybe the case is done. >> i used to do this all the time. >> there is no incentive. b, again, three clients? thousands of documents? one client is someone he had a casual conversation with real estate about like at bar? this is not a giant cache, chris, of attorney-client privileged information. to that end, what i would also say is people who are sort of gaming out today's ruling by judge woods are completely missing the forest or to the trees...

People sign it. >> ambassador eisen, is this even legal? is there a compelling government purpose? it sounds like maybe these were more just to make the president feel better. >> well, anderson, they're not legal. unlike when mr. trump was occupying trump tower, in the oval office, the united states constitution applies to agreements that he compels his employees to sign. under the first amendment, there's an exception for classified information, attorney-client privileged information. but beyond that, the first amendment protects white house employees' ability to speak when they leave the whi...

While he had great fanfare. you and me i would love to get a look at steve bannon's phone record and see who he's talking to and how the information is out there. second thing is that the president talks to everybody and so this information apparently happened in june. why is it coming out right now like a big water balloon object president when he's having a fantastic trip here in davos meeting with world leaders and about to get a fantastic speech about global prosperity and global growth? i find this to be a nonsensical story. and another in the -- >> i appreciate you -- it matters too much...