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In washington, and he's a big sort of a cynic when it comes to washington, any party getting anything done. and in this environment it would get harder. >> it's an anti-washington as well as anti--wall street vote. >> and this 100-point head, a good chunk of it came from disappointment that a wall street friend is gone. >> exactly. i like eric, but he was perceived as sort of being pro-banker, pro-bailout. if you look at those polls, people said, wait a minute why are these people not in jail? and i think he suffered unfairly from that. >> do you get a sense that there's growing skepticism tha...

Cannot do for themselves. with no free market money, the governor had to be the investor. there were no private sector investors. his theory was based on ideology, not reality. >> i think you hit on exactly what it is, ideology. prior to the 2008 race, romney, or during the 2008 race, romney's passion position was more pro bailout and they were working out a framework. i think this is the problem as john said, as you said, there is a lovely theory of the case. and some people did subscribe to it. but to say, i suggest a manage bankruptcy, yes, that is sort of what happened. but it happened in ...

Have followed what abraham lincoln said, the company should do for the people what they cannot do for themselves. with no free market money, the governor had to be the investor. there were no private sector investors. his theory was based on ideology, not reality. >> i think you hit on exactly what it is, ideology. prior to the 2008 race, romney, or during the 2008 race, romney's passion position was more pro bailout and they were working out a framework. i think this is the problem as john said, as you said, there is a lovely theory of the case. and some people did subscribe to it. but to say...

Process, people are furious about what they think is a pro-industry, pro-bailout, pro-bribe majority party legislating in the dark and back rooms some that -- i think that narrative, as i said is set. i don't think congressional democrats can turn that around any time. >> but john nichols, the democrats have got to move on something. they are going to have to reconcile and legislatively move on something. i'm not convinced the republicans are going to help them do anything for this president. what is the best play? >> the best play is to understand that the fundamental issue in america right n...