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Because that's not who new yorkers are." >> go ahead. when you heard that, you see the uproar that those words generated. what do you say? >> he speaks very bluntly and there's nothing wrong with a politician making his case, saying i disagree with people who are anti-you know, gay rights, pro gun or anti-gun control. it's the tone and how he said it. there are a lot of people in new york who are anti-abortion. it's a big state pap lot of people in new york are pro gun and maybe pro assault weapon. it's the tone for a governor that pushes away some people. that's part of -- there are other exa...

Rating for president obama. that's who votes in democratic primary. >> he's on the corner trying to get attention. >> nor is there any great hunger in the democratic party for a pro gun, pro death penalty -- >> exactly. that's not what people are looking for. i have a different theory about guys who throw their hat in the ring. i think they have no intention of becoming president of the united states. it's become a business to run for president of the united states. you say the most insane things. you get on tv. >> that's more effective on the right. >> the republican primary, i agree with you...

There for some kind of new voice and new approach. and all schweitzer is doing is -- >> right. the point about that -- >> he's making the point that hey, there's got to be something other than hillary out there. >> i agree. but the point as a descriptive matter, 84% of liberal democrats -- the job approval rating for president obama. that's who votes in democratic primary. >> he's on the corner trying to get attention. >> nor is there any great hunger in the democratic party for a pro gun, pro death penalty -- >> exactly. that's not what people are looking for. i have a different theory about ...

Bloomberg's anti-gun group have been basically fizzling. we've actually seen a lot of backlash against efforts to go into states like colorado and impose new stricter gun laws. so i think people are at a loss about what to do about it and, therefore, are not paying as much attention as they used to. >> there's an interesting piece in "the new york times," sheriffs refusing to enforce laws on gun control. 55 out of 62 sheriffs signed on to a federal lawsuit against these new gun laws that include background checks for private gun transfers, no more magazines over 15 rounds. they're claim the la...

>> there was a ton of churn in that individual market anyway? >> what does the huntsman clan talk about? >> i found that studly really interesting about dads with daughters more plikly to be republican and my dad never had a shot at being a democrat. he had three daughters first. >> he was a republican before he had daughters. >> but he never had obviously any motivation to switch. maybe you will switch when you have a beautiful little girl, tour'e. >> what is one thing multiple daughters have in common? they want to protect them from boy friends or whatever, you got to have a gun close by. re...