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trial. a trial that threatens to upend his personal fortune and real estate business. the former president could take the stand in his own defense on monday, but today the court is hearing from an accounting expert who described new york attorney general's letitia james' claims of fraud as meritless, saying, quote, my main finding is that there is no evidence whatsoever for any accounting fraud. this is trump's first appearance since an appellate court reinstated a gag order barring him from talking about the court staff on social media. while the clerks are off limits, trump didn't ...

E.j., you've got all your foets lined up. i want to make very clear you've taken a lot of notes. senator schumer may have slansed something to get this imdprags debate back on track. >> i think he's trying to call the bluff of the republicans, john boehner, paul ryan have been saying we can't trust obama. so what he's saying is okay, the new law will not take effect until after obama leaves office. and i think john boehner and paul ryan are really on the line here because they've been sending signals privately to all kinds of pro immigration groups. they really want to do this. they've shown s...

E.j., you've got all your notes lined up. i want to make very clear you've taken a lot of notes. senator schumer may have advanced something to get this immigration debate back on track. what do you think? >> right. i think he's trying to call the bluff of the republicans, john boehner, paul ryan have been saying we can't trust obama. so what he's saying is okay, the new law will not take effect until after obama leaves office. and i think john boehner and paul ryan are really on the line here because they've been sending signals privately to all kinds of pro immigration groups. they really wa...

Not true. he didn't have the ability or authority without a warrant to do that. >> chris: let's turn to janet napolitano by announcing she is stepping down as the secretary of homeland security to predator pretty good job. she is going to run the university of california system. there was criticism she wasn't tough enough to border security or war on terror. you think that is legitimate? >> it's inevitable. in terms have her rhetoric, she seemed to bend over backwards not to use the word terrorists. in a job like dhs that is not fit. man-caused incidents, all of them caused by men. >> that is ...