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Democratic counter part brings a lot of weight to the debate and the discussion, and really kind of moves the agenda forward on something that i think everybody in this country is looking to move forward on, and that's bipartisan ship, or more importantly, consensus on what's the best thing to do. alan simpson is the guy to help us do that. >> i think enema man, snoopy snoop changes the character. >> it is a good move by the president. >> all right. fair enough. let me ask you about that whole issue about bipartisan ship. it is interesting. the milwaukee sentinel journal, they front paged this...

Fight that walker just picked in wisconsin and that he just lost. >> scott walker is being a leader not just for the state of wisconsin, a leader for this entire country. i believe that we are in a battle for freedom in this country and that same battle for freedom is taking place in madison. we need to get serious in madison and this country about spending, scott walker is doing it. >> he is doing it all right, and thanks to the new republican party national chairman, he is not only doing it to the republican party in the state of i was going to say how's my new best friend. >> i realize it h...

Fair to debate whether or not it is okay to take stalling tactics. like this is essentially a filibuster. i think you're right willing to debate whether or not there is procedural fairness. butted idea that they are not making their case, i don't believe that. they are doing everything they can to make their case and they worked it and they won it. >> they are wimps on the approach. i believe in the fight. you know, what i went through the last two years as rnc chairman. i believe in the fight. despite folks battling against you, the fact you may not have the vote, it is always important to st...

Poorly in terms of policy, they are editorializing against union stripping thing, but poorly in terms of conservative politics in wisconsin. what is the national impact of wisconsin? >> i think there is now a small national impact. i don't think it rippled out as as far as some of my friends on the left would like and hoped. but i think there are a couple of things to start with rachel to look at. the first issue that the governor had to deal with was a fundamental one, and an important one, and that is the privilege of state employees to collectively bargain versus the right of individuals to...

Those cuts for k-12 are not going to do anything to help your budget deficit. it is not about the budget. they say it is about the budget, it is not about the budget. in ohio, john kasich delivered his state of the state. mr. kasich and state republicans have sort of forgotten to make it look like it is their agenda has anything to do with the state's budget. they put forward a more draconian union stripping proposal than the one being tried in wisconsin. again, stripping collective bargaining rights is not a fiscal issue, it is a rights issue. but mr. kasich and ohio republicans outdid themse...