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Own right, three, four, five weeks after the fact i think undermined the effort there. something as big as this where you have the dnc and white house mobilizing, unions and activists from around the country in a way that galvanizes this debate, to define this debate early on to me was an opening that was missed. and i think now the governor finds himself in the untenable situation of having to deal with a lot of extra noise. the polling and all the other stuff, that makes it much harder for him to have the kind of leverage in those discussions and debate the way i think he should have had fro...

Believe that. they are doing everything they can to make their case and they worked it and they won it. >> they are wimps on the approach. i believe in the fight. you know, what i went through the last two years as rnc chairman. i believe in the fight. despite folks battling against you, the fact you may not have the vote, it is always important to stand before your opposition whether it is the governor of your state or anyone else, look them in the eye, say this is what i believe in. this is why this is a value to me, and i think, you know, with all due respect to our friends there, you can d...

We have to do this. you can consolidate power. we remember this from the bush administration. they did at the federal level after 9-11, they said we have a crisis, and we have to essentially rule by fiat. the first stage is to consolidate power. it is not just to hoard the power, it is then to auction off the states. because these guys really don't believe in the governments that they are running. this is an old story. if you look at what's going on in wisconsin, why are they so desperate to tie the hands of unions? why are 16 states facing similar battles? unions are the final line of defense...

That was rather wimpish in its own right, three, four, five weeks after the fact i think undermined the effort there. something as big as this where you have the dnc and white house mobilizing, unions and activists from around the country in a way that galvanizes this debate, to define this debate early on to me was an opening that was missed. and i think now the governor finds himself in the untenable situation of having to deal with a lot of extra noise. the polling and all the other stuff, that makes it much harder for him to have the kind of leverage in those discussions and debate the way...

Wisconsin and that he just lost. >> scott walker is being a leader not just for the state of wisconsin butesque a leader for this entire country. i believe that we are in a battle for freedom in this country and that same battle for freedom is taking place in madison. we need to get serious in madison and this country about spending, scott walker is doing it. >> he is doing it all right, and thanks to the new republican party national chairman, he is not only doing it to the republican party in the state of wisconsin, he is doing it to the republican party nationally. joining us now, the man w...