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That the administration was already declaring that mubarak was stepping down and we were all surprised when he didn't. having said that, look, this is very hard to follow this and understand what's going on, and one of the issues, clearly, is the limit of u.s. influence in all of this. a the administration is to be faulted probably for talking too much when they didn't know what was going to happen. maybe they shouldn't have talked so much when at that point, but clearly they want to be on the side of democracy, wants to be on the side of the protesters and, quite frankly, wants to do whatever...

So long as it doesn't join attack on demonstrators and split, key to transition and the future. the only institution with unver a respect, prestige and support and the most stable and pro-western. it would be suicidal to cut off aid to military, unless it splits and joins in a suppression of the demonstrators, which all bets are off. if it doesn't it's the key. in several months mubarak will be gone. army will remain. from turkey, the army was guarantor of the state. guarantor of the secularism. he has to be in egypt. if it adopts that role, we're going to have a good outcome that's why our re...

So long as it doesn't join attack on demonstrators and split, key to transition and the future. the only institution with unver a respect, prestige and support and the most stable and pro-western. it would be suicidal to cut off aid to military, unless it splits and joins in a suppression of the demonstrators, which all bets are off. if it doesn't it's the key. in several months mubarak will be gone. army will remain. from turkey, the army was guarantor of the state. guarantor of the secularism. he has to be in egypt. if it adopts that role, we're going to have a good outcome that's why our re...

The other rub is that the administration right now is trying to be on the right side of history to be on the side of people. the people are saying clearly they are against the storm we have been propping up. not enough tension there for you? consider the prospect of backlash. if they support what appears to be a revolution in egypt, is it possible that that support would then taint that revolution as pro western or pro american. america loves the idea in theory of the arab nations welcoming places where people elect leaders in fair elections. the government loves that idea in theory. in theory...

Here's mohammed el baradei, head of the arms control, international arms control. here he is on abc yesterday talking about what he says egyptian mubarak should do. let's listen. >> people concerned right now is mubarak has to go immediately. the first step if we need to get out of this mess and it's a total mess, security is not there, it's total chaos situation right now. first step, he has to go. >> well he has to go. do we have any hopes much getting a leader as loyal to us as mubarak? >> absolutely. i think the egyptians have a lot of great people beyond the regime right now. >> who are p...