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Significance to somebody, can be probative of somebody's intent. public statements by themselves would certainly not support an obstruction of justice. >> right. >> charge of anything. >> that's the worst part of it, john, are you bringing it up if they use it as evidence of probative intent, that's a whole charge the, you believe that's what it can go to. >> i don't want how close or away bob mueller is ar any other charge against donald trump. however the way you prove intent is by people's actions and statements. >> right. that includes a public statement. >> that's why we see, walter, his ...

Jesstural, it may have significance to somebody, can be probative of somebody's intent. public statements by themselves would certainly not support an obstruction of justice. >> right. >> charge of anything. >> that's the worst part of it, john, are you bringing it up if they use it as evidence of probative intent, that's a whole charge the, you believe that's what it can go to. >> i don't want how close or away bob mueller is ar any other charge against donald trump. however the way you prove intent is by people's actions and statements. >> right. that's why we see, walter, his lawyers have a...