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Mexican people are going to pay for it, that was baloney, she have known it was baloney. we don't believe the wall is a good technology. the american people don't think it is a good technology. there are other ways to keep our borders secure. >> here's my point, ben. the president did make a promise. and democrats have sort of made a promise that they're not going to give in to him. there is no give on either side here. and that is really worrisome. especially if you're among the 800,000 without pay. >> well, again, i look at the president, and if you notice, it is only democrats that are talk...

Every single one. europe asia. >> i got no problem funding it. in fact i talk about funding infrastructure every single day on this show. okay? but the answer is not always a bigger check. i support that bigger check. but that's always the answer. something bad happened. we got a massive $4.5 trillion budget every year. we can't afford this to save lives in philadelphia? that's my only point. we're on the same side on funding this stuff. but is there mismanagement in the system, too? >> i think amtrak's been asking for this for a while. it's been on their most wanted list for a while. congress...