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As we make him look. >> sean: john, one of the things that struck me is that obama had surrogates. the president of the united states had surrogates, union officials, others apparently doing his bidding, rahm emanuel among them, saying this is the list of acceptable people. the question that i am not sure that has been answered is did president obama know for sure that blagojevich wanted something in exchange? >> that's why we call them buffers. like in the godfather. you know that exchange where the mafia guy talks to the senator and says we have a lot of buffers senator. this is chicago poli...

As we make him look. >> sean: john, one of the things that struck me is that obama had surrogates. the president of the united states had surrogates, union officials, others apparently doing his bidding, rahm emanuel among them, saying this is the list of acceptable people. the question that i am not sure that has been answered is did president obama know for sure that blagojevich wanted something in exchange? >> that's why we call them buffers. like in the godfather. you know that exchange where the mafia guy talks to the senator and says we have a lot of buffers senator. this is chicago poli...