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This, if and when maybe they're going to say so what, get over it. we shnlt gouldn't get over it. that's not okay. >> the way i understand impeachment working in the past is that the chief justice presides, bullet really the procedure rules are set by a majority of the senate, whatever they get 51 votes for. do you think there'll be any restraint? do you think it'll be hard for mcconnell to get 51 votes to say subpoena hunter biden? >> i don't know. these are not normal times. under normal times you would think an impeachment proceeding would be serious business and you would lend it the serio...

Deal with some -- i don't know if we want to call them fault lines or barricades that they would have to deal with in the senate just because of the way that chamber uses procedure rules. so the house has been trying to find a work around from that. what they're going to do, they're going to allow states under certain conditions to have the option of waiving some of these mandates in obamacare, and that's billion of interest to republicans -- that's been of interest to republicans. i think that's a promising development if they want to get this taken care of. heather: and just finally, a timel...