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About whether the fbi in investigated whether she should testify, stand-ins for arguments about who people believe, which themselves stand for broader commitments have for the world view they share. >> it's interesting, though, that republicans and kind of defenders of judge kavanaugh don't actually want to have that argument about are these issues -- are these accusations credible? they either want to have this process argument, or an argument about whether things that you do in high school are relevant to your reputation in midlife. because they really don't want her sitting there before the...

Some documents have been withheld because they've been questioning the process. the bush team has used its own lawyers to determine what constitutes privilege, what can be provided to the senate judiciary committee. there's no evidence that the bush team is doing anything nefarious, but democrats are raising that specter and expect that process argument to continue to play out. >> can the democrats make this case? we just showed you some numbers. brett kavanaugh, 103,000-plus pages. neil gorsuch, 182,000. elena kagan, 171,000. these are documents before they became judges. what republicans are...

What happened to conversations about health care. people's premiums are going up. they have lost ground on that. now they want to take a process argument into the midterm elections. if you are arguing about process, i don't care if you are republican or democrat, if you are argue being process you are losing your at. >> carry, i thought bernie sanders with me on sunday, two sundays ago, had an interesting way of not talking about impeach men. listen to his answer. >> i am a member of the united states senate. if trump is impeached, i will have to be making a decision, voting on that. you can't...

Are probably right. maybe we should say democrats shut it down because we want more leverage later. i would look at the human side of this and the military security side of it and in which case we should be voting to keep the government open. >> so would you have supported a clean c.r. should have this been a clean c.r. and separate the politics from government shutdown? >> um, i would have to think that through. because i'm not sure it cleans the arc of the past. >> that goes to the process argument we're just having. >> and i think the reason they put in a six-year reauthorization of c.h.i.p...

President's man or the president of his own party or the party man that he really was urging the united states senate to get back into the business of being a coequal branch that is supposed to be, you know, the saucer that cools the passions, that has a process, the dlib rative body and he is arguing that is the path forward for the united states senate for the benefit of the country and it is that process argument that she making here that is so critical as he is trying to sort of steer the senate back to a more compromising or bipartisan kind of institution. >> it really is a game changer. ...