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You should probably have this vote on bif by itself. i've gotten confirmation that this whole thing did happen from a senior democratic aide on the hill. what was up with what congresswoman jayapal was doing if you have any insight into that? >> yeah. i mean, colleagues broke this conversation, this story. it seems like, you know, she was being clear about where her caucus stands, right? in trying to get the president to say -- to agree with them. and at this point we've seen mostly that this white house has kind of been on the side of progressives when it comes to the process aspect of things...

Little bit of that kind of process aspect. >> well i think in 2009 when you asked yourself why didn't he do those things? one of those things he had a democratic congress. if you remember when he reached out for republicans, bonnie frank and reid and pelosi criticized him for reaching out to republicans. he had a democratic congressional agenda he had to operate under during that period, and it's ironic he has flipped the narrative. he has a republican house and senate and he's doing what they said they couldn't accomplish back then. he has flipped the narrative. i think he will be remembered ...