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Fired james comey, >> bret: 8 was allowed to finish his investigation, there would be no special counsel. i'm surprised about the talk of process crimes. process crimes are not parking tickets. process crimes are lying to federal prosecutors, this is the very basis of which justice is administered to the degree that you commit perjury, that's a very serious crime, but they will hide important facts, investigators want to know. we should also point out that the special prosecutor, the special counselor resulted in the indictment and guilty pleas and serious and convictions of michael flynn, the...

There were no more indictments coming doesn't necessarily mean much since the president can't be indicted, but it's also true that if that were true, that donald trump had colluded with russia to steal the 2016 election, you would not see one indictment, you'd see dozens, if not hundreds of the people who were involved who were operating with a foreign power to commit treason. the fact that there are no more indictments coming and the fact that all of the indictments we've seen thus far have been for process crimes are things unrelated to what we've been told by so many people in the media wit...

Of congress to conduct investigation after investigation as it doesn't relate to any legislative purpose. >> bret: what about this argument about process crimes, understanding they are crimes and that the indictments we've seen and the people who have been brought forward, michael flynn, george papadopoulos, we haven't seen in the end to the michael flynn situation. that they were not hiding crimes. in other words, they lied to investigators about what we understand, there were not crimes behind it. what about that for people to digest? >> what i've seen, again i haven't read the report, the o...

People to trial so that's a show indictment in some ways but finally the process crimes. every investigation produces process crimes. people lie, they obstruct witnesses, they do all of these things. these are crimes that are generated, not caused, generated by the investigation itself. they are serious crimes, but you do not appoint a special counsel in order to prosecute process crimes but you appoint a special counsel to prosecute or investigate substantive crimes relating to collusion. on that, unless we see something dramatic in this report, this special counsel has not come up with very ...

There are a lot of people who are going to prison or have had been found guilty of things that are a result of this special counsel investigation that have nothing to do with what was sold as, process crimes, lying to the fbi. that whole thing happened right after you had a very different situation with a hillary clinton campaign which was -- you saw a lot of people let go with what they were doing for nobody brought up in process crimes, even though they had people on false statements even including hillary clinton. you want to see and even this on how they handle campaigns, don't want to see...