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Advice of his counsel not to testify and not to put up a defense. this case is far from over. the four-month sentence, he could have gotten 1 to 12 months. i think the judge gave him four months for the basis trying to understand whether or not he was remorseful. >> harris: we've seen process crimes, we've seen a lot of time spent on what i would call the constellation around the former president. >> yes. >> harris: speak to me about that and what potentially is coming. >> i will tell you right now remember the last thing the january 6th committee did was request a subpoena to be issued for pr...

Paul , first, congratulations on the book. i don't know if you went to a bookstore today, but it's in bookstores all across the country and get, on amazon.com, a first edition copy. i read the whole book cover to cover. i will tellell you i'm reading this and i'm saying this is not. the america i know. this is not the country that i know now. webout were talking about tax violations, phare violations, process crimes. you warrant sammy the bull gravano. you are john gotti, seniorrejoht the fbi was looking for. you weren't a member of the drug cartel, you know,tl and in these casesed they had al...

A case for witness hampering? >> absolutely. i think that most often they're more sophisticated then come right out and say bad things by, me don't tell the truth, they say it and more guarded terms like this. don't forget who you -- whose loyalty belong to, don't forget who's team your on. those kinds of things. so standing alone, i don't think it's enough, but if you put it together with other comments, other statements, there is certainly a motive to persuade her, it could be the stuff of a criminal case. it's a serious crime, the statute provides for up to 20 years in prison, some people d...

Testimony that you see at criminal trials, about tampering with witnesses, which is a crime, right? this is what this looks like. >> there is nothing a congressional committee can do about witness intimidation, but there is something the justice department can do. this is another thing, where the committee is saying to merrick garland, publicly, look what he is doing. do you want to allow this? is this what you want to allow? you need to get into this investigation. it looks like merrick garland's into this investigation, but, they are trying to make it, in effect, embarrassing for merrick gar...

Seen, a very public notice of, we have evidence of further witness tampering. three, the doj can act, on its own. congress can, also, refer. this is the type of crime, with a lot of discussion about whether you refer the specific situation, for what i would call, substantive crimes. coups, election fraud, elector fraud, that kind of thing. this is what they call a process crime. but, the process this committee can confirm by letter, or statement, these kinds of things. mueller went far, it was very strict on this, and did what was called process crimes. the mueller report, also, referring to t...