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Birther thing and in all of the friction that trump was the kind of guy who whoever he said about you yesterday, he was always willing to start a new type of relationship the next day and maybe there'd be conversations going forward. a dialogue, not where we are. >> perhaps wishful thinking of the time. what was interesting with, they had a different objective and goal there. they really were tasked with transferring power peacefully. and the president at the time, president obama, wanted to ensure that he did everything he could to make that process go smoothly. and when you talk to the trump...

Next question. secretary perez, recently you said that the primary was rigged against bernie sanders. later the same day you said you misspoke when you made those comments. which is it? >> here's the facts. hillary clinton won the democratic primary. hillary clinton also won the popular vote. at the same time because of the absence of transparency in the democratic primary, there was a crisis of trust that ensued. what we need in the chair of the democratic party is to make sure that in fact and in perception, every single day you are fair and neutral. that's why when you asked question before...

Image of a much bigger object but that hasn't been confirmed since. that much bigger object obviously is the fuselage and searchers think that the fuselage brianna, mainly in tact and it still con takened many of the bodies. so a very frustrating all around but so much so for the families who wait here where i am at the crisis center in surabaya for any sort of news about the fate of their loved ones. >> and so many of them you told us are resigned, really to the fate of their loved ones and so the next step for many of them is burying their loved ones. now with 30 bodies having been found, on...

Wall street journal" that they are going to continue to fight this battle. right? and in fact, so jim demint is saying we are not going to back down on obama care, that even after this whole thing we're going to keep coming after it. does the -- do the website problems which are probably mostly technical in nature create an argument that is more systemic in nature for demint and others to keep coming after it? >> i think they'll try to leverage it, which is why, even though i agree with addressing immigration reform, i think the website technicality issue is probably something that needs to be...

Command, take it some place out of the chain of command, have that process go through there and then if that -- if somebody is found guilty of that crime don't just punish them, punish his boss. make sure that there is no tolerance, zero tolerance for this. that's been the problem all along. if it's a false accusation, fine the person who made the false accusation. martha: just like a corporation would have to do, move it outside. >> move it outside. martha: it's very heartbreaking to see john mccain saying someone asked him should my daughter be in the military, and he said i have to say no. ...