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Abrams out of georgia, dr. jill biden will be there, joe biden has already visited. keisha lance bottoms, the mayor of atlanta. mark, explain to folks why a gubernatorial off-year election in the commonwealth of virginia is a high-stakes affair. >> well, this is going to make huge news, brian. whichever way it goes. people are going to say this is a harbinger of what's going to be for 2022. and it's interesting to see that mcauliffe is pulling in all the democrats and youngkin is running away from trump. and one of the things that poll shows which i think is interesting is that democrats despi...

Extraordinary insecurity and weakness. any one of these people shouldn't need a subpoena at all. as an american, as a patriot, as a citizen, who suffered the insurrection, it was not an aquatic on democrats in congress, it was an attack on the entire government. including the republicans and including the vice president. >> congresswoman madeleine dean, democrat of pennsylvania, refusing of trump allies refusing to comply with the january six committee -- wonder they have to hide? back with us tonight, don galloway, democratic strategist, founder of the national voter -- and mark mckinnon form...

Clear that any of trump's allies including especially bannon are going to defy them. they see it as a badge of honor. they also recognize there's not much teeth in the current subpoenas as drawn up by congress. and i think that's got to change, by the way, in the future. i mean, bannon's obviously going to draw this out over months and months. and the criminal penalties i think are only up to a year which are not particularly consequential and unlikely to be imposed. i think bannon and company are just going to flout this. again, the more they do this the stronger they are in trump's eyes. so ...

Only thing that's going to matter is who, winds because if mcauliffe, winds it's going to be a big win for biden, and if youngkin win, it's going to be a big win for trump. >> by the way to our viewers who might wonder of don calloway is in the witness protection program, he's having some wi-fi issues, and we're trying to get a stronger signal out of him. so he can hear us and vice versa. don, there you, are think goodness, we were worried about you. i want to play for you, an exchange between our friend andrea mitchell, and terry mcauliffe, we're going to talk about its significance on the ot...

Joe biden has already visited, keisha lance bottoms, the mayor of atlanta, mark explained to folks, why a gubernatorial off year election, in the commonwealth of virginia is a high stakes is going to make hue news, brian whichever way, echoes people will say this a harbinger of what's going to be for 2020, to it's interesting to see that mcauliffe is pulling in all the democrats, and youngkin is running away from trump. and one of the things that poll shows, which i think is, interesting is that democrats, despite difficulty right, now in congress, with the president and with the congress, are...