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Appear bond. it is a process jim , that is very sort of run of the mill very business as usual for officials here, but given the nature that of the proceedings here, and the fact that the defendant is the former president the process will certainly not be normal monday. come tuesday will certainly expect crowds certainly expect the cameras here, jim it will not be normal. that's correct. polo sandoval thank you very much. joining me now, cnn law enforcement analyst jonathan wackrow. jonathan great to see you. um, you know, we've been saying this over and over again. the arrest of the former u....

Intelligence committee but someone who wanted to divert from russia situation. the process jim was just talking about. when you're in the room and intelligence briefer gives you a document, top secret document that says, for example, russian official, russian diplomat caulking to u.s. person number one, that's how it reads. and you say in the case that i'm familiar with, you're the fbi director, i need to know who u.s. person number one is because i need to know who is communicating inappropriately maybe with the russian diplomat. that goes into a formal process. the briefer doesn't just say, ...

They are meticulously logged. >> we are seeing intentional deception, phil mudd. you want to take a general issue, which people have about surveillance. what are you collecting there in the spy world and when is my name up for your own offer within your agency or outside and what was done specifically here. to jim's point, if rice wanted to leak this, if they wanted to do something sneaky, why would she have gone through the normal challenge of having it unmasked and created a paper trail of her own deception. >> sure. if you look at this case, let me pick up on what was said. i've been in the...