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Chairman nunes in conducting an investigation and a review has the opportunity to have his sources. our view was that the smart move was to make all the materials available to the chairman and the ranking member of the relevant committees, and i understand the obsession with the process piece. but we are focused on the substance of it, and i think the goal is to make sure that people have the substance that are looking into this, that we have asked to look into this -- >> so the house didn't make it available already? >> no, we have sent a letter within the past few hours to both of those comm...

Hopefully if we can get that done, if the appropriators do what they're supposed to do, we can get back to a process that actually works again. we've tried super committees. we've tried bowles simpson. it hasn't worked. that's another process piece that i think, would argue that we're headed in the right direction by actually working within the framework of the united states congress to work these conflicts. >> thank you very much. appreciate you taking the time. by the way, the president was supposed to have a meeting today, but it didn't happen. was that an ominous sign? still to come, tha...

Is getting back to regular order. hopefully if we can get that done, if the appropriators do what they're supposed to do, we can get back to a process that actually works again. we've tried super committees. we've tried bowles simpson. it hasn't worked. that's another process piece that i think, would argue that we're headed in the right direction by actually working within the framework of the united states congress to work these conflicts. >> thank you very much. appreciate you taking the time. by the way, the president was supposed to have a meeting today, but it didn't happen. was that an ...

>> let me go to -- do you want to respond? these process pieces. a minute with you here. to me that piece talked a lot more than -- there was a lot of backstory there, a lot of importance. you wrote about process, sure, about how the campaign can't have a coherent message. the biggest message was it doesn't have a clear sense of why he's running. joy, do you want to jump in here. he called it a process piece. that's an interesting shot. >> chris, it was interesting. that was a ceo talking to his board of directors about why they had a bad quarter and explaining it away. that was not a guy who ...

Senator. this is a fundamental human rights issue. and i'm proud of what he said, and i'm even more proud of what president of the united states said on a fundamental issue of civil rights. and i watched it with my dad. it was taped. and i sat there, and i was moved. i was as or more moved by the what the president said two days later. and in going even further. this is -- you know, i let other people focus on the process piece. there's a lot of interest about the process, and i understand that that's important. people want to kind of look behind the curtain. i don't get involved in that piece...