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Consumer protections in wall street's pocket cabinet members over at the consumer bureau like it's a coup d'etat telling ms. english she can't do anything and nobody should respond to anything she said. it really is a case where in the end, politics is whose on your side. and clearly this administration over and over it comes to financial rules, they're always on wall street's side every single time. >> soy understand substantively you're on one side. the president and mick mulvaney, most republicans and most of wall street are on the other about this bureau and what it does. but in a sort of ...

There's a conduct question and there's a process question. and in the process question, to your point, i think these people are paid by the american people, elected by the american people, the money paid out so far came from taxpayer funds. should that be the case going forward. some victims would also like privacy. that's an issue in the second complaint against conyers. a lawsuit was filed and a staffer said he's repeatedly coming to her desk, covering and attempting to hold her hands. that case was filed and withdrawn because she wanted the case to proceed under seal. conyers office says th...

It is more of a process question. how is he doing handling taxes? it's kind of a mess. we're in markup for a big tax reform bill. i don't know that anybody comes out well in the middle of that process. but it is evident that you have to get something done if you're a party and control particularly on an issue that you campaigned on. health care is more popular. there is a larger point here. the supporters of the president, i'm not just talking about the base but the moveable of the middle of the elect rat. something has to be done. you may not like him. you may not approve everything that he i...

>> well, that's hard to say. that's a little bit of a process question. we've been pushing they listen to the governors, because we have the greatest level of experience and what's happening in our states, we've encouraged them for a number of months to make some changes in the senate bill, many of them were adopted, but in the end it was hard to bring people together. the message that i have is they need to continue their path to reform and not give up. >> let's talk about that. because it seems as though certainly the president is ready to wash his hands of this. it seems he's reached a dead...

>> just a pure process question, then another subject. if repeal and delay were to be passed, you know, don't you think that some people would be within their rights to be concerned if republicans couldn't get something through now, why should it be any different over the next year or two? wouldn't there be a real possibility there never would be a replace? >> the repeal portion is the one that partisanship aside, id logically, there's a deep divide between members of congress. it's the repeal portion more so than the replace debate. hopefully, between republicans and democrats, you won't see ...