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clearly established procedures involving classified documents d. he know the right and wrong way of handling those items when he took them from the white house to mar-a-lago. cnn has learned the national archives is ready to hand over records to special counsel jack smith showing that the former president and his top adviser certainly did know. just walk us through your reporting, jamie. >> anderson, cnn has obtained this letter that was sent by the national archives, as you said, informer former president trump that it is set to hand over the 16 presidential records. they're from hi...

That there is no indication or evidence that he ever actually made that decision. >> so, that's -- i mean, it's a very important -- it's an important point and a fine one. there's a process for declassifying material. the president has broad authority on this to perhaps go outside that process. but it's not clear that even if he did that -- >> that he ever actually did that. so, there's -- >> there's a -- are you say there's a way to go outside that process that there would be some sort of trail of? >> it would be his inherent constitutional authority, a president's constitutional authority to...