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Something they lied to federal agents. >> it would be more process style. mueller and his team are talking to people for a long time. when mueller people asked a lot of questions and you have to be precise. in the course of these interviews they said something the mueller team said they could use to get a plea to a false statement sergeant in many cases they don't go the substantive route and might be a difficult case to prove particularly to a false statement along those lines, wouldn't surprise me if it plays out here. heather: the headline is manafort plea deal represents setback for muelle...

Julian assange. corsi said he's not going to lie. >> first, i kind of doubt that. he's a fabulous from way back. it's more likely that mueller doubted his, corsi's statement. corsi saying he forgot about this until this new evidence came out. potentially he forces mueller to an indictment of both him and stone which will take longer and he hoped before to go from corsi to get him to cooperate as against stone. now there's a prospect of a trial. >> shannon: if these they end up getting indicted and trouble, do you think it will be a process time? do you think they'll get in trouble on substance...